Sen. Amy Klobuchar says she and other top female presidential candidates wouldn’t be on the debate stage if they had the same experience as Mayor Pete Buttigieg (BOO’-tuh-juhj).

The Minnesota Democrat said Sunday on CNN that she believes the 37-year-old mayor of South Bend, Indiana, is qualified but that she’s the better candidate.

Klobuchar says, “I’m the one from the Midwest that has actually won in a statewide race over and over again.” She says of the female candidates: “Maybe we’re held to a different standard.”

Buttigieg has been one of the surprises of the Democratic primary, rising from an unknown to a top candidate who has raised more money than almost all his rivals. He is a Harvard graduate, Rhodes scholar and military veteran who is openly gay.